AI Visibility Audit: Can LLMs Crawl Your Website? James Dooley Interviews Stephen Burns

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What Does “AI Visibility Audit: Can LLMs Crawl Your Website? James Dooley Interviews Stephen Burns” Talk About?

This episode of the Fatrank Podcast features James Dooley interviewing Stephen Burns from the Common Crawl Foundation about AI visibility and whether large language models can actually crawl and read your website. Stephen walks through an AI visibility audit tool he built, hosted at audit.stephenburns.ai, which checks whether a site is accessible to CCBot and other AI crawlers such as GPTBot, ChatGPT User, and ClaudeBot. Using FatRank.com as a live example, he demonstrates how the tool returns a verdict and a harmonic centrality score.

“If you load all JavaScript on your homepage or your sites, you're invisible to AI. It's not going to get any information off your page.”

— Stephen Burns

Who Are the Guests on “AI Visibility Audit: Can LLMs Crawl Your Website? James Dooley Interviews Stephen Burns”?

James Dooley is the host of the Fatrank Podcast and a well-known figure in the SEO industry, guiding the conversation to draw out practical technical SEO insights that agencies and brand marketers can apply to improve AI visibility.

What Are the Key Takeaways From “AI Visibility Audit: Can LLMs Crawl Your Website? James Dooley Interviews Stephen Burns”?

Here are the key points discussed in this episode:

  • Gate one of the AI visibility audit is permissions, controlled by your robots.txt file, which tells crawlers like CCBot whether they can crawl your site.
  • Gate two is the edge layer, where CDN filters can silently block bots even when robots.txt appears open, and roughly 35% of the internet is blocked this way.
  • Gate three is rendering, and because AI crawlers read HTML and text rather than JavaScript, a fully JavaScript-rendered page can be invisible to AI.
  • Stephen Burns built a free audit tool at audit.stephenburns.ai that checks crawlability against CCBot, GPTBot, ChatGPT User, and ClaudeBot, and also gives a harmonic centrality score.
  • Crawler IP verification means checks for non-CCBot crawlers may be less accurate, since the tool cannot mimic a crawler's real IP address.

“An SEO or a brand marketer may think, Oh, yeah, we're open to crawlers with the permission level at robots. But they're not actually checking their edge, which is even more important and hidden.”

— Stephen Burns

Is “AI Visibility Audit: Can LLMs Crawl Your Website? James Dooley Interviews Stephen Burns” Worth Listening To?

This episode is worth listening to because it demystifies a critical but often overlooked aspect of modern SEO: whether large language models can technically access your content at all. Rather than staying theoretical, Stephen Burns demonstrates a live audit tool and explains the three gates that determine AI crawlability, giving listeners a concrete checklist to run against their own sites.

Who Should Listen to “AI Visibility Audit: Can LLMs Crawl Your Website? James Dooley Interviews Stephen Burns”?

This episode is ideal for:

  • SEO agency owners preparing for AI-driven search in 2026
  • Technical SEO specialists focused on crawlability and rendering
  • Brand marketers wanting their content visible to LLMs
  • Web developers deciding between JavaScript and HTML rendering

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What Are Listeners Saying About This Episode?

★★★★★

“The breakdown of the three gates - permissions, edge, and rendering - finally made the difference between robots.txt and CDN filters click for me. Hearing that 35% of the internet is blocked at the edge was a wake-up call. Ran my own site through the audit tool right after listening.”

— Marcus T-.

★★★★★

“James and Stephen keep this tight and practical. The point about JavaScript pages being invisible to AI crawlers is something every dev on my team needed to hear. Really useful walkthrough of the StephenBurns.ai audit.”

— Priya S-.

★★★★★

“Loved that they used FatRank.com as a live example instead of just talking abstractly. The explanation of why CCBot results are more accurate than the other crawlers because of IP verification was a nice detail I hadn't considered.”

— Daniel R-.

This video explains which digital marketing strategies SEO agencies should focus on in 2026 to improve AI crawler access, website rendering and overall AI visibility. James Dooley and Stephen Burns start with KPI tracking because measuring crawlability and harmonic centrality shows whether large language models can actually reach and read your pages. They cover brand SEO, AI visibility and Google Business Profiles because stronger search presence improves trust and conversion rates.

The discussion also explores organic SEO, organic social media and paid social ads because consistent visibility across search and social supports long term growth. PPC is analysed in detail because campaign setup, landing pages and lead handling directly affect results. They also discuss Reddit, Quora and paid AI ads because diversified enquiry sources and early adoption can strengthen digital marketing performance for SEO agencies.

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James Dooley: AI visibility audit. Today I'm joined with Stephen Burns from Common Crawl and we're going to talk about how certain websites is actually blocking different large language models. So Stephen, first and foremost, why is it that you created an AI visibility audit yourself?

Stephen Burns: Well, two months ago, I wrote a, a PDF, a guide for AI visibility. I've been speaking on the SEO circuit about this and people were asking for my presentation. So, you know, presentations don't tell you anything because they're all just pictures. So, I wrote a guide on it and I, we published it on the Common Crawl Foundation's blog and it's hosted there. You can download this 18-page guide on how to, uh, make your site visible to AI. And then, so this tool that I built, uh, I, you know, it struck me. I go, well, why don't I build a tool as a follow-up so that you actually can do a check on your site and help these people, uh, help them check it to see if their site's visible to CCBot and other AI crawlers and if you're in, in the crawl. And I'll actually give you your... It gives your harmonic centrality score too. So if I share my screen, so I'll share the screen here now and I'll go onto the tool, which is here. So it's StephenBurns.ai. It's a subdomain, audit.stephenburns.ai. And what I've done is I've loaded in one of my websites, FatRank.com, and it's checking to see, is your site visible to AI? I've loaded it. And here it says verdict open. So, I'm presuming that means it's fully open and everything's working fine for the different LLMs. Is that correct?

James Dooley: Yes. You're doing a very good job, James. Cheers, Stephen. I, I'm glad you've told me that because I didn't want it to have a big red cross and a big block. Um, but let's, let's move down here then. Let's start having a look at this because here it says gate number one, permission. So, with regards to the AI visibility audit, what does gate number one, permission, actually mean?

Stephen Burns: Yeah, there's three gates. So, the first gate is permissions. Your robots.txt file, the directive that tells the crawlers if they can crawl your site or not. So, your site, uh, FatRank.com, uh, you have your, your robots set up correctly and says, "Yeah, please crawl me, CCBot." And then, and then gate number two says edge. So, what edge means? So yeah, your site is hosted and it may, it has a CDN and an edge that has filters built into it. And your... If those filters are set up to block bots, which, you know, 35% of the internet is blocked by a lot of these, these filters that, by these major CDN companies, uh, it will not get the... The crawler can't get past that. You see, an SEO or a brand marketer may think, "Oh, yeah, we're open to crawlers with the permission level at robots. We, come on in." But they're not actually checking their edge, which is even more important and hidden. So, you got to talk to your, you know, your admin who manages that to say, "Hey, are we open to these crawlers?" And this will tell you if you're open to those crawlers. And then gate number three says rendering. So, what does that mean in the AI audit? So CCBot gets through both gate, the first two gates, and then it, uh, loads your page. And if your page is fully rendered in JavaScript, uh, CCBot and the other AI crawlers don't render JavaScript. They read HTML and text. So yeah, if you're... In this case you're serving, uh, words that it can read and it likes that. If it was... This would be red if it was all JavaScript. You'd be basically... If you load all JavaScript on your homepage or your sites, you're invisible to AI. It's not going to get any information off your page.

James Dooley: And then with regards to the AI visibility audit that you've created now, it shows not only CCBot, which is Common Crawl bot, it's also showing GPTBot, ChatGPT User, ClaudeBot, Anthropic. So all these we're checking against all these to make certain that it's available and visible for AI. Is that correct?

Stephen Burns: Yeah, I added a little bonus section here to see if your, uh, site is viewable to the other crawlers. But there's a caveat here, right? You... The other crawl... A lot of these CDN settings, you, uh, may have, they may check the IP of the crawler. So every crawler has an IP address. This tool, we can't... You can't mimic an IP address. Uh, so this tool is showing the... The CCBot one's accurate because it's pulling it from the, the database that where it shows that it got a 200 right through. The other ones, uh, sometimes they'll let it in, uh, the user agent mimicking the, the crawler, it will let it in. That's good. But sometimes it says, "No, you're not the real one. You're not coming from that IP address." So it may not show that accuracy there. But it's good, a good check-up tool to have anyways.

James Dooley: Yeah, for sure. So anyone, anyone who's watching this and you're looking for greater AI visibility, obviously step number one is like technical SEO. It's getting the foundations being set up. This is, this is crucially important. You've got to be making certain that ChatGPT and Anthropic and Gemini and CCBot can all actually crawl and render your actual site. It's really important. So make sure you head over to StephenBurns.ai and go onto the audit section and go and check to see whether your actual website is available for more AI visibility. Stephen Burns, it's been an absolute pleasure. Thank you very much.

Stephen Burns: Thanks for having me.

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Stephen Burns is a technical SEO and generative engine optimisation specialist with 25 years of experience in search. As Web Intelligence Lead at the Common Crawl Foundation and Principal Technical…

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