How to grow a landscaping business? | Fatrank lead generation
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What Does “How to grow a landscaping business? | Fatrank lead generation” Talk About?
In this episode of the Fatrank Podcast, James Dooley and Kasra Dash tackle the question of how to grow a landscaping company using digital marketing. They walk through the key growth channels available to landscaping businesses, including SEO, PPC, organic social media, social media advertising, and pay-on-performance lead generation. The conversation is grounded in practical experience, with both hosts sharing personal opinions on what works and what to avoid, making it accessible to business owners at different stages of growth.
The hosts go deep on why traditional advertising methods like billboards, TV, and radio are hard to justify in today's market, citing difficulty tracking KPIs and high costs. They also give an honest breakdown of PPC, including the problem of click fraud and the real cost per click in the landscaping industry, which they estimate at around ten to fifteen dollars. SEO is framed not just as a ranking tool but as a long-term business asset that can increase company valuation. Visual platforms like Pinterest and Instagram are highlighted as particularly effective for landscaping businesses given the nature of the work. The episode wraps with a discussion of FatRank's lead generation model, which allows landscaping companies to receive inquiries on a pay-on-performance basis, reducing financial risk while supporting consistent growth.
“Making certain that you're looking at the reviews that you have online and making certain that at the eleventh hour, if you are up against another competitor, another landscaping company, and your prices are very similar, and this client now is searching your name and their name, how strong does your brand look online.”
— James Dooley
Who Are the Guests on “How to grow a landscaping business? | Fatrank lead generation”?
James Dooley is a digital marketing expert and one of the founders behind FatRank, a lead generation company that works across multiple industries including landscaping. He has extensive experience helping businesses grow online through SEO, reputation management, and performance-based lead generation. Throughout the episode, James demonstrates a strategic, big-picture approach to digital growth, consistently tying tactics back to long-term brand building and business valuation.
Kasra Dash is a digital marketing professional and co-host who brings a grounded, experience-based perspective to the conversation. He speaks candidly about his personal frustrations with PPC, including the reality of click fraud, and advocates strongly for SEO as a business asset. Kasra's practical mindset makes him particularly relatable to business owners who are cautious about where they invest their marketing budget.
What Are the Key Takeaways From “How to grow a landscaping business? | Fatrank lead generation”?
Here are the key points discussed in this episode:
- SEO is not just a traffic strategy but a long-term business asset that can increase your company valuation if you plan to sell in the future.
- PPC carries significant risk for landscaping businesses due to click fraud and high cost-per-click rates of around ten to fifteen dollars, meaning even a competitor clicking your ad can waste a meaningful portion of your daily budget.
- Visual platforms like Pinterest and Instagram are especially well-suited for landscaping businesses because before-and-after photos and job videos can drive strong engagement and brand awareness.
- Retargeting pixels allow landscaping businesses to re-engage website visitors who did not convert, keeping the brand visible across social media platforms until the potential customer is ready to inquire.
- Pairing your own SEO and branding efforts with a performance-based lead generation service like FatRank creates a complementary strategy where improved brand reputation directly boosts conversion rates on incoming leads.
“Not only that is that if you did sign up with FatRank for lead generation to grow your landscaping business, and you're doing the SEO and improving your reputation management, it compensates each other. Your conversion would be a lot better if you started to do this play alongside getting a lead generation company.”
— James Dooley
Is “How to grow a landscaping business? | Fatrank lead generation” Worth Listening To?
This episode is a genuinely useful listen for any landscaping business owner who wants a clear, jargon-free breakdown of digital marketing options. Rather than offering vague advice, James and Kasra get specific, naming platforms, discussing click costs, explaining click fraud, and walking through realistic budget scenarios for both established and newer landscaping companies. The conversation feels like sitting in on a consultation call, which makes it easy to apply the advice directly to your own situation.
What makes the episode particularly valuable is the honest tone. Kasra openly admits his bad experiences with PPC rather than selling it as a universal solution, and James acknowledges that doing everything right in SEO and social media can still leave you without a consistent flow of leads. That kind of candid, experience-based honesty is rare in marketing content and makes the recommendations feel trustworthy. Whether you are just starting out or looking to scale an existing landscaping operation, this episode gives you a realistic framework for where to invest your time and money online.
Who Should Listen to “How to grow a landscaping business? | Fatrank lead generation”?
This episode is ideal for:
- Landscaping business owners looking for practical digital marketing strategies to grow their client base
- Small business owners in trade or service industries who want to understand how SEO, PPC, and social media advertising compare
- Entrepreneurs considering performance-based lead generation as a lower-risk alternative to traditional advertising spend
- Marketing managers or consultants working with local service businesses who need a clear overview of channel options and trade-offs
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What Are Listeners Saying About This Episode?
“Really appreciated the honest take on PPC in this one. The breakdown of click fraud and the actual cost-per-click in the landscaping space was eye-opening. I had no idea competitors could be burning through my budget just by clicking my ads.”
“James and Kasra make a great point about SEO being a business asset rather than just a ranking tool. I had never thought about how my website's ability to generate leads could actually increase my company's valuation if I ever decided to sell. Genuinely changed how I think about my marketing spend.”
“The retargeting section clicked for me immediately. The ASOS shoe analogy they used is exactly how I explain it to clients but hearing it applied specifically to a landscaping business made it feel way more practical. Short episode but packed with useful direction.”

James Dooley and Kasra Dash explain how to grow a landscaping company using digital marketing rather than traditional advertising because online channels are easier to track and scale. They break down SEO, PPC, social media, retargeting and lead generation, with a strong focus on SEO because it builds long term assets and improves brand trust. They explain that strong branding, reviews and visuals increase conversion because customers compare competitors online before buying. They also highlight FatRank lead generation because pay on performance reduces risk while supporting consistent business growth.
Kasra Dash: So how do I grow a landscaping company. James Dooley: So that's a great question that we ask quite a lot. For landscaping companies, if they're looking to grow, there's different methods. All traditional methods are places like billboard advertising, TV advertising, radio advertising, magazines, stuff like that. But I tend to stay away from doing a lot of traditional nowadays. It's expensive, it's hard to track KPIs, stuff like that. Generally speaking, I think the best methods, if I fresh them all out and then we can discuss further, the best ways to grow a landscaping company would be SEO, search engine optimisation through to your website. We can expand on that in a minute with regards to content, topical authority and links, how to do it in the most efficient manner. You've got PPC, which is bidding at the top of Google per click. Very, very expensive for what it is, but literally can be generating new leads today. Then you've got being active on social media accounts, so making certain that your brand has got all different social media. That could be Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, maybe even Pinterest because landscaping, they do quite a lot of nice visual jobs. So if you can try to get some images and videos put on there for the landscaping jobs of what you've done, it could work very, very well. Then you've got social media advertising, so you definitely should be getting the retargeting pixel on your website, which then means that if they didn't kind of inquire, you're still following them and showing them ads on social media like Facebook. The social media ads that could work well for a landscaping business to grow would probably be Pinterest ads, Facebook ads, Instagram ads, Twitter ads or YouTube ads. And then probably the last method we can touch upon is actually hiring a lead generation company. So over at fatrank.com, we have a no risk supply of inquiries if accepted. We do quite a lot of work with different landscaping companies, whether that could be landscaping for a public open space like a park or anything like that, or just general landscaping and tree planting and stuff like that. There's lots of different sub niches and subtopics within landscaping as a whole where we can help companies. I'd strongly recommend getting in touch with fatrank.com to see whether you are accepted. If you're not accepted, we also do pass you on to someone we feel would be best to suit your needs, whether it could be a PPC expert or an SEO expert, stuff like that. But for landscaping companies looking to grow, what would you say, like out of the list there, what would you say the best probably two or three things to do. Kasra Dash: So definitely avoid traditional advertising. There's no chance I'm going to be sticking my brand on a billboard or down the motorway that nobody sees. SEO from my own website, I would probably be attuned to that because obviously it is a long term play, but you are also building up an asset at that point. So say for example you're looking to sell your business in five or six years time, if your website itself generates its own inquiries, that's an actual asset to the business and your business valuation would increase as well. PPC, I've personally had bad experiences with, so I try to avoid it at all costs. I think that's mainly because the issue with PPC is you're paying per click. You then need to properly dig down of exactly what keywords convert into orders. But also there's a lot of click fraud. A lot of people don't understand that a lot of people are paying for clicks or competitors are clicking on your ad to see what the landing page is. In the landscaping industry it's about on average around ten, twelve per click, so it's nearly fifteen dollars per click. And your competitor clicks onto it, it just cost you fifteen dollars. So at that point you're like right okay, if your daily spend is let's say forty five pounds or forty five dollars, that's one third of your budget gone just like that. So I think my go to strategies is if I'm an established landscaping company and I've got let's say a couple thousand or let's say four thousand pounds to spend, I'll definitely invest that into SEO. If I'm less established and I don't have that cash to spend every month, I would probably go down the road of doing social media, like organic social media posts. So let's say I'm a landscaping company, I might set up a camera and do some video footage, some nice before and after photos, and just make certain I'm consistently doing it. And if I'm being one hundred percent honest, I'd probably be doing both if I'm an established company. And I would also be looking to do social media ads as well. Getting people back onto the website, like you yourself know this, if you go on ASOS and you don't buy anything, let's say you're looking at a pair of shoes, the next time you load up Facebook those pair of shoes is essentially being displayed to you. It's almost like an online digital billboard and that's the whole point of retargeting and getting people back onto your website and inquiring with your business. James Dooley: Yeah for sure. If you're a landscaping company and you are looking to grow online, my personal best methods is start to do SEO, not just for higher rankings but also for branding as well. Making certain that you're looking at the reviews that you have online and making certain that at the eleventh hour, if you are up against another competitor, another landscaping company, and your prices are very similar, and this client now is searching your name and their name, how strong does your brand look online. Do you look like a reputable company. Do you have lots of five star reviews. Do you look good. Is there lots of very nice photos of previous jobs that you've done or case studies or testimonials. Are they all there. Have you got nice videos. I'd be looking to do everything I can on your own website. But the truth of the matter is it can be very demoralising when you're doing everything right on social media, posting nice photos, posting nice videos, and doing SEO, that you still might not be getting a consistent flow of quality inquiries. So to compensate that, alongside doing all the things right yourself, like what Kasra said, you are actually improving the valuation of your site, of your company as a whole, if you can generate your own leads with your own website. However alongside that, instantly I would go down the road of looking to team up with a company like FatRank that can turn around and give you a no risk supply of inquiries. So you're only paying for jobs that you win and make profit on, and then you pay a finders fee and a commission through to FatRank. They're the best two plays in my opinion. Not only that is that if you did sign up with FatRank for lead generation to grow your landscaping business, and you're doing the SEO and improving your reputation management, it compensates each other. Your conversion would be a lot better if you started to do this play alongside getting a lead generation company. So that's what I would do if you're looking to grow a landscaping company online. Kasra Dash: Anything else. James Dooley: I think that's it. I think the last thing is if you guys do have a landscaping company and you might just want a consultation call with us really, maybe guide you in the right way, make sure to check out FatRank. The link will be in the description. Thanks.
Creators & Guests
Host
James Dooley is the founder of FatRank which is a UK lead generation company. James Dooley is the current CEO of FatRank that provides high-quality leads for UK business owners.
Guest
Kasra Dash is a digital marketer who builds SEO systems because his work focuses on scalable search workflows. Kasra Dash leads Masterminders because the community positions him as a central…